“A complete outlier”
Commissioner Uyeda, a seasoned veteran of nearly two decades at the SEC, shared stories from his long tenure-like an old coot reminiscing about the good ol’ days. Before this, he dabbled as a corporate securities lawyer and state securities regulator in California, and even played the role of Acting Chairman from January to April 2025, stepping into an agency that he claims had wandered off the path like a sheep in a wolf’s den.
His take on the previous four years left no room for sugarcoating. “The last four years were a complete outlier to anything I’ve seen in over three decades as a corporate securities lawyer,” he declared. He lamented how the SEC under former Chairman Gary Gensler turned from a disclosure-focused entity into what he charmingly dubbed “a business conduct regulator.”
The laundry list he rattled off could make a laundry mat blush. The agency started meddling in whether companies should issue dividends or undertake share repurchases, scrutinizing their cybersecurity, supply chain management, human resources, DEI efforts at the board level, greenhouse gas emissions, mine safety records, and executive compensation-all without a legislative mandate from Congress. Goodness gracious, what a buffet of regulations!
“We’re supposed to be a disclosure agency, and that’s a role we’ve clung to through the Clinton era, George W. Bush, and President Obama. But in the last four years, it was a complete deviation!” he lamented.
Then came the football analogy. Uyeda opined that normal policy disagreements are akin to whether the pigskin sits closer to the left hash mark or the right. “Unfortunately, for the past four years, I think we weren’t even in the stadium. We were outside. We were so far out of our lane,” he quipped.
Uyeda also dropped a number that often gets lost in the shuffle of policy discussions. The U.S. sports roughly half the number of public companies it had 30 years ago. His concern? IPOs are no longer about raising capital from the public; they’ve become mere liquidity events for employees and early venture capitalists, leaving the everyday retail investor high and dry when it comes to wealth creation.
Peirce Breaks Down Why Crypto Actually Matters
In the second act of this podcast spectacle, Commissioner Peirce took the stage, leading the SEC’s Crypto Task Force, now rebranded as Project Crypto. She didn’t just drone on about policy; oh no, she went back to the fundamentals!
“Crypto solves the double spending problem,” she declared. “Once upon a time, you could send data over the internet, but you couldn’t send value because I could send you value and then send the same value to someone else and say, ‘Look, I paid both of you!’ Cryptography fixes that little pickle.”
From there, she dove into how blockchain tech lets folks transact directly, without needing middlemen-those pesky intermediaries who sometimes walk away with customer cash or are just plain careless. She pointed to smart contracts as a means to program compliance directly into assets, automate collateral payouts, and embed restrictions right into the code instead of relying on mountains of paperwork.
“Through the power of smart contracts, you can program assets, which is quite the feat. You can build regulatory requirements right in or other kinds of restrictions you want to include,” she said, her enthusiasm palpable.
When Atkins asked whether there’s urgency to all this, Peirce didn’t mince words. “We do want to make this the place where people want to innovate, whether it’s in crypto or something else,” she asserted, adding that a proper regulatory framework would help the SEC tackle fraud more effectively rather than “spending our enforcement resources where our regulatory resources could have done the job.”
SEC and CFTC: From Turf War to Joint Mission
One of the juicier tidbits from the podcast was how snugly the SEC and CFTC are now working together.
Atkins pointed out that Michael Selig-initially recruited by Peirce as legal counsel for the Crypto Task Force-has now ascended to the throne as Chairman of the CFTC. Atkins described this as something that “portends a really close working relationship between the two agencies for the first time in decades and decades.” Who knew they’d finally play nice?
For years, these two agencies were engaged in a turf war that industry insiders dubbed a battle royale over crypto jurisdiction. That skirmish appears to be behind them, as the agencies signed a Memorandum of Understanding on March 11 and followed up with a joint interpretive release on March 17 that established a formal token taxonomy, neatly categorizing digital assets and assigning regulatory responsibility.
Peirce mentioned that the CFTC will now take the lead on spot crypto trading-an area previously devoid of any regulatory framework. “We want to ensure we’re not wasting resources tackling the same problem,” she said, slyly noting that Congress still has a role to play here, waving a flag for the CLARITY Act that’s still making its way through the Senate.
Free Enterprise, Investor Education, and What Comes Next
Uyeda wrapped his segment with a surprise twist. As the U.S. approaches its 250th anniversary, he tied the SEC’s mission back to the country’s founding values of opportunity, free enterprise, and the freedom to pursue a trade with minimal government interference. A noble thought indeed!
But he cautioned that success breeds sloth. “All the success America has experienced in terms of economic growth, innovation, and new technology can breed complacency,” he warned. “Well, there’s always a competitor ready to try to knock you off your perch.”
Peirce concluded her segment by shining a spotlight on investor education. She warned that fraudsters are reaching out to potential victims through increasingly casual channels, and the SEC must meet investors “where they’re meeting scammers.” She passionately advocated for financial literacy starting in elementary school, expressing her desire for children to be “immersed in it so that by the time they manage their own money, they’re comfortable and not afraid to seek help.”
For an agency that spent the Gensler years communicating mostly through enforcement actions, the fact that all three sitting Commissioners are now sharing their thoughts publicly, in their own words, speaks volumes about where this SEC is headed. Whether the rulemaking keeps pace with the rhetoric remains the burning question.
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