The Rings of Power star Trystane Gravelle explains why Pharazôn is a “good leader” (Exclusive)

As a fan who has been following this character’s journey since the beginning, it’s truly fascinating to witness their resurgence. However, much like a fine wine, every character has its own expiration date, and I’m not sure if we can equate this individual with an elf’s longevity.

The fifth installment of “The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power” has been released on Prime Video! This time around, we find ourselves delving into the life of Ar-Pharazôn, a powerful Númenorean noble who seized the throne from Queen Regent Míriel. Throughout the episode, Ar-Pharazôn is seen longingly gazing towards the everlasting shores of Valinor, devising ways to suppress the faithful on Númenor, and pondering the use of the Palantír – an ancient artifact created by elves that he intends to utilize against Míriel.

In the style of J.R.R. Tolkien’s works, Pharazôn resents the decree of the gods, known as the Valar, in this realm. These divine beings granted the Númenoreans extended lifespan…yet denied them immortality, a privilege enjoyed by the elves. The Valar bestowed their island sanctuary upon the Númenoreans, yet prohibited them from voyaging west to the hallowed land of Valinor, where the gods dwell alongside faithful elves. Over time, Númenor becomes a place divided: on one side are those who continue to honor the Valar and elves; on the other, individuals like Pharazôn, who believe the Númenoreans have been unfairly treated.

According to my perspective, Pharazôn seems to be exuding an aura of excessive pride that often precedes disaster; if you’re well-versed in the Middle-earth lore detailed in the appendices of “The Lord of the Rings” or “The Silmarillion”, you understand this doesn’t bode well. However, Welsh actor Trystane Gravelle, who portrays Pharazôn, holds a different viewpoint. We were fortunate enough to chat with Gravelle about his take on Pharazôn, Pharazôn’s ambitions, his rationale, his enmity towards the elves, and much more. Dive into our exclusive interview below!

This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

In the story, Pharazôn has been plotting to seize the throne, and now he holds the scepter. To what extent is Pharazôn’s quest for power driven by personal ambition, and to what extent does he genuinely believe that he can benefit Númenor and Míriel should not be in charge?

Trystane Gravelle: I believe they are interconnected. In my view, the history of Númenor mirrors a paradise, such as Eden. There was a harmonious interaction between humans, animals, and nature, filled with mutual respect and friendship. The bears danced for them…However, over time, this enchantment faded, and they started seeing everything on the island as resources to be utilized for their benefit…It became reminiscent of biblical narratives where everything is there for their use…We, humans, no longer have the luxury of time to cultivate relationships with nature or watch a tree grow. Instead, nature is something to be conquered, filled with challenges and hardships. Once we overcome it, we look back with arrogance and pride, indulging our baser instincts, and then ask ourselves, ‘what’s next? What do we do now?’

Pharazôn is fully aware and questioning the situation. He comments, “Yes, you claim this place to be paradise, yet we’re forbidden to venture westward.” Clearly, there are rules in place. Moreover, we possess the unique burdens of mortality and death, which the elves do not share. It seems quite crafty how the situation is presented. I wonder if there’s something more going on here? Is there a hidden agenda because it feels like we’re being treated as inferior beings.

History can sometimes fade or become distorted, especially concerning the actions of elves, the interactions between men and elves, and the tales of Elros, Elrond, and other significant events. However, it’s essential to remember our unique identity and achievements rather than dwelling on the past accomplishments of others. In Pharazôn’s thoughts, this means embracing who we are as a people and race, and celebrating our own distinct qualities, instead of focusing on the idea that elves did things better. This is the path he seems to be advocating for.

Additionally, he has a practical approach towards matters, viewing everything as having a purpose. Some people associate morality with this perspective, which I find somewhat hasty and presumptuous at times. This is because it’s easy to make judgments when one hasn’t faced the responsibilities that come with governing an empire or kingdom. If you wish to succeed in such a role, you must learn to be resilient and disciplined. You must utilize whatever resources or people are available to accomplish your goals, as there is more at stake than just your personal beliefs of right or wrong. The well-being of everyone on this island, their legacy, and the purpose they serve are all factors that need to be considered. Furthermore, are changes in their roles imminent? If so, what would be the reason behind these changes?

Absolutely, absolutely. Everyone has their personal aspirations too. There’s a broader perspective and then there’s the smaller one of development. Initially, the chancellor held the highest position he could attain. He was once a sea captain, mirroring Elendil’s actions. In the first season, Pharazôn served as chancellor. However, he is far more complex than just his title suggests. He is indeed a philosopher and a warrior sea captain. Yet, in his chancellorship, he adopts an air of relaxation, reflecting the world of men’s attitude towards their roles. Now, we witness him reclaiming former glories, and we will see him transform into who he once was. This brings about a renewed energy or ‘second wind,’ which is accompanied by questions such as, ‘How long will this last?’ This question carries with it its own anxiety and fear. For example, when one experiences a second wind while lifting 100 kilograms at the gym, there’s a concern about when the tendon might snap. To put it bluntly, we are witnessing this character rediscover his past glory. But the question remains, ‘How long will this last since he is not an elf?’

To truly portray a character authentically, one must immerse oneself in their world, understanding it without passing judgment. However, it’s challenging to avoid prejudging someone unless you truly know them. By the time you understand the character deeply, you’re already too invested to step back and view it objectively. There are actions that are unjustifiable and unforgivable, but sometimes there’s a higher purpose at play, a cliche often seen in storytelling.

I think going back to that scene is is interesting, because now that that glass ceiling has been broken for him. And what next? There are new possibilities. I don’t know whether we can say endless possibilities. But there are certainly a lot of possibilities at play here now. And you get a second sort of cognitive evolution going, ‘I can act on what I’m thinking now. I can act on my thoughts.’ And what are the ramifications on that? And who do I need by my side for that? So that was an interesting scene.

As a gamer, I found it intriguing to introduce my son to this game scene, saying, “Forget about morals, focus on what you must do for your people, how we’ll be remembered.” It’s intense, isn’t it? It seems like an abusive relationship, but remember, they’re living in a world far removed from our cozy gaming rooms. I might make myself another cup of tea while watching, thinking, “Oh, this is just a game.” But the reality is, we’re often unaware of the struggles people face in the real world. However, Pharazôn seems keenly aware of the potential dangers and the opportunity to improve things for his people, making him more informed than most of us spectators.

“Even if you disagree with the actions of the Faithful, it doesn’t mean you have to be inflexible. In season 1, Pharazôn himself demonstrates this when he uses Quenya words, like when speaking of King Tar-Palantir. He’s not strictly rigid; he adapts his language because it helps him communicate with the people. However, now we must move in a different direction.”

You might examine some structures and carvings in Númenor, thinking they could be Elven. Instead of ordering demolition, he takes a pragmatic approach, asking himself ‘What’s best? What should I learn?’ He values knowledge, as people have experienced things he hasn’t. Given his strategic mind, comparable to chess champions like Garry Kasparov and Magnus Carlsen, he wants to stay informed about any unusual artifacts that might hold unique properties. If these objects could prove useful, he intends to make the most of them. This seems like the action of a wise leader.

Appreciation goes out to Gravelle for finding the time to chat with us! Fresh installments of “The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power” become available every Thursday on Amazon Prime Video.

*Quenya is an Elvish language

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2024-09-12 16:41