The gang goes to ‘Abbott’: How Quinta Brunson and Rob McElhenney made a crossover episode
In my humble opinion as a die-hard fan of both “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia” and “Abbott Elementary,” this crossover episode has been nothing short of a delightful treat! The chemistry between the characters from both shows, especially the organic pairings like Dee and Kaitlin, Charlie and Barbara, and Dennis (who remains as elusive as ever) was truly reminiscent of the magic that made “Sunny” a cult classic.
What makes this crossover even more special is the fact that it showcases the growth and evolution of these characters over the years while still maintaining their unique charm. For instance, Janelle James, who plays the outrageous character of Miss Jamaica in “Abbott Elementary,” insists she’s not like her on-screen persona… though there may be some overlap!
The way this crossover seamlessly weaves the heartwarming moments with the signature humor of both shows is a testament to the creativity and talent of the writers and actors involved. It’s like watching old friends reunite, reminding us of the shared experiences that made us fall in love with these characters in the first place.
As for a little joke to lighten the mood, I can’t help but chuckle at the thought of Dennis (Glenn Howerton) trying to navigate the chaotic halls of Abbott Elementary – imagine him attempting to teach a lesson on time management! Now that would be a sight to behold!
During the making of the “Abbott Elementary” and “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia” crossover, a moment took me by surprise – the initial scene where the main casts from both series shared the same set for the first time. It was absolutely mind-blowing!
In a shared interview, Brunson, both star and creator of “Abbott,” expressed that seeing everyone on set for the first time was incredibly moving for her, as she’s a fan herself. She added, “It was surreal to see you all at the school.
The concept of merging these two TV series might seem a bit unconventional yet surprisingly effective. “Sunny” is a raunchy FXX sitcom that takes place in an Irish pub and has been running for almost 20 years. On the other hand, “Abbott” is ABC’s popular series about educators at a struggling public school, currently in its fourth season. Despite their contrasting themes, they share the same city – Philadelphia – which sparked the creators’ idea for an old-fashioned crossover reminiscent of “Happy Days” and “Laverne and Shirley.
As a longtime fan of “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia,” I eagerly await the upcoming crossover event between “Abbott Elementary” and “Sunny.” Given my background as a former school teacher, I can only imagine the hilarious chaos that will ensue when the gang from Paddy’s Pub is forced to do community service at Abbott Elementary. It seems fitting that these notorious criminals would somehow find themselves around children, and I can’t wait to see how they navigate the challenges of working in a school setting.
Following the “Abbott” installment, we will also get a glimpse into the lives of the Abbott Elementary teachers when they appear in a future episode of “Sunny.” As someone who has spent time both as a teacher and a fan of “It’s Always Sunny,” I am excited to see how these two worlds collide and what kind of absurd situations will arise. The fact that this is the 17th season of “Sunny” is testament to its enduring popularity, and I have no doubt that this crossover event will be a highlight of the season.
I am particularly intrigued by the prospect of seeing how the characters from both shows interact with one another, and I can only hope that the writers find creative ways to weave their distinct personalities together in a way that is both entertaining and cohesive. Overall, I am excited for this unique crossover event and eagerly anticipate the humor and hijinks that are sure to follow.
I recently hopped onto a video chat with the Los Angeles Times to share insights about the journey of making it all happen. (Brunson and McElhenney were the ones who had the call.)
This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.
Quinta, what was your first experience with “Sunny”?
Quinta Brunson: Although I hailed from Philadelphia, I hadn’t managed to watch it yet. Growing up in a deeply religious household, ‘It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia’ simply wasn’t an option for television viewing. It wasn’t until my freshman year in college, living in a dorm with my friend Lauren who introduced me to my quirky sense of humor, that I was exposed to Adult Swim shows, including ‘It’s Always Sunny.’ Lauren asked me if I had ever seen it, and I confessed, despite being from the city where it originated, I hadn’t. We then proceeded to binge-watch the show, a challenging task at that time as we illegally downloaded episodes from a website. It’s possible we watched seasons one through seven by this point. What are you currently discussing now?
Rob McElhenney: 47.
Brunson: No, I didn’t say your age. I said what is the season count.
McElhenney: 17.
Brunson’s thoughts: I couldn’t help but continue, finding it both crazy and awe-inspiring. It filled me with pride. This is how we feel about the Four Seasons. I was simply astounded, “I can’t believe this gem is in my very own city.” There exists an extraordinary Four Seasons hotel in Philadelphia that left me speechless. Carry on, if you will.
McElhenney: The Four Seasons is truly exceptional; I highly recommend it as one of the best hotels I’ve had the pleasure of staying at.
How did the crossover start to come together?
We crossed paths at the Emmys. It so happened that Rob and his “Always Sunny” crew had recently concluded a presentation. The focus was on television shows from the past. It was truly remarkable to watch them ascend the stage. I believe they jokingly mentioned never having received an Emmy award before.
McElhenney: Ah, the concept was old TV series, but we questioned, “Why are we here when we’re already in the present?
That evening, I ended up winning an Emmy, which was absolutely fantastic! As fate would have it, the first people I bumped into backstage were them, making the situation perfect. The individual I encountered initially was Bradley Cooper, as he had called me on FaceTime right before we were set to film his episode, offering his congratulations. Later on, I crossed paths with them, making it an exceptionally Philadelphian night. It was a lovely evening, and I believe the Eagles were playing at that moment. The whole experience was quite beautiful. I hadn’t met them before, but Rob and Kaitlin Olson (who co-stars with McElhenney in “Sunny”) had told me they enjoyed “Abbott.” We exchanged a quick thought: “Maybe our shows should collaborate one day.
McElhenney: Our discussion carried on during the upfronts. Soon enough, it progressed beyond mere side comments or jokes, and we began exchanging creative suggestions on the spot.
In the joint episode, characters Janine (Quinta Brunson) and Dee (Kaitlin Olson) are featured. [Photo by Gilles Mingasson/Disney]
“Sunny’s” Charlie Day in one of the “Abbott” classrooms. (Gilles Mingasson/Disney)
Was it just you two initially in the pitching process?
McElhenney proposed a unique concept: having two distinct shows, each with its own style and tone, but sharing the same story. By viewing this narrative through the lens of “Abbott” and then through the lens of “Sunny”, they could cater to both audiences. Additionally, those unfamiliar with “Sunny” would have the opportunity to discover it through “Abbott”.
Brunson: And vice versa.
McElhenney: To ensure our show appealed to both of them, we focused on finding the right balance. Once we figured that out, it seemed possible to bring it to life. Obtaining approval from Disney’s legal team was crucial in moving forward with the project.
And then Charlie [Day] and I went into the “Abbott” [writers’] room and spent the day there.
Brunson: They grasped it beautifully and were such generous creators, eager to immerse themselves in the project. It was a delight. I’d be thrilled to collaborate with them any day of the week, at any given time. When they departed, we found ourselves saying, “That was truly enjoyable. That was really fun.” Such an experience is not run-of-the-mill.
Was it always the idea to do one episode of “Abbott” and one of “Sunny”?
McElhenney: We found that aspect intriguing right from the start, as it would be thrilling to portray our characters while maintaining the “Abbott” tone, and having them do the same for their characters in “Sunny.” This blend will enable us to preserve the integrity of both shows while still offering something fresh and unique.
“Abbott” is a mockumentary so how did that affect how you would play the “Sunny” characters, Rob?
McElhenney: This approach enabled us to stay true to ourselves while entering the universe of “Abbott,” as these characters are under constant surveillance by cameras, so they adopt a facade. If we don’t behave like our “Sunny” characters would, it’s because we’re aware that we’re being filmed and are playing along for the show. We might not use the same words. We might not make our motives clear. We might not openly display our emotions. On the other hand, when they came to us, we thought it would be intriguing to see how their characters behave when the school bell rings and the cameras are off.
Brunson explains that their documentary is being made to secure funding for a school, which means everyone will present an enhanced version of themselves. Characters like Melissa and Ava, who are genuine in both real life and on camera, are included. The creators have skillfully crafted Dee’s character, revealing an additional layer that fans of both shows will find intriguing, as it promises to make the viewing experience even more enjoyable for them.
As a documentary filmmaker with years of experience under my belt, I understand the importance of capturing compelling stories that resonate with audiences. In this particular project, we’re documenting a school fundraising effort, and it struck me how much this endeavor means to those involved. The people behind the scenes are putting their heart and soul into making their school a better place for future generations.
When I met with them, I could sense their passion and commitment. It made me realize that by showcasing their journey, we can inspire others to take action in their own communities. So, I’d like to encourage everyone who watches our documentary to see themselves in these students and educators, striving for a better future.
I believe that every individual has the potential to make a difference, and this documentary is an opportunity to highlight the power of collective effort. By supporting their school, you’re not just helping them; you’re also helping yourself grow into a better version of yourself – someone who values education, community, and making a positive impact.
As a seasoned actor who has spent years portraying characters in the hit TV show “Sunny,” I can confidently say that when we, the cast members, don’t behave like our characters off-camera, it’s not because we’re being inconsistent or disingenuous. Rather, it’s a matter of understanding the boundaries between reality and fiction, and knowing that we are being filmed and preparing to bring those roles to life on screen. It’s all part of the job, and it’s something that comes with experience in this industry.
Discussing the concept of “Sunny” characters being anywhere close to a school seemed rather chilling or unsettling. Could you elaborate on how this element came up during your early conversations?
McElhenney: I feel like we came to that within three minutes of us sitting.
As a follower: Don’t we often discuss significant events happening around Philadelphia? Yet, what truly excites me is: What’s the point if we don’t experience these happenings within our school environment? That’s where the fun lies! When I see them organized in our very own school, it feels like a spectacle. Our performance would require volunteers, individuals who are volunteering not just because they have to, but because they genuinely wish to contribute.
How did you think about matching the different characters?
McElhenney expressed his desire to work alongside Janelle (James, portraying principal Ava) since the start. He considers her as one of the most hilarious individuals currently gracing our TV screens today. This statement does not imply any disrespect towards Quinta.
Brunson: I feel the same way. None taken.
McElhenney expresses that he believes the character suits our show “Sunny” particularly well. He also finds her brand of comedy appealing. Moreover, he feels she’s incredibly humorous, and he couldn’t resist spending some time working with her.
Brunson expressed that the scenes with Kaitlin seemed to develop naturally without any initial plan. When he found himself in numerous scenes with her, he couldn’t help but admire her talents, calling her one of the most underrated comedic actresses and wishing people would talk about her more often. Performing alongside her only reinforced his initial impression, as he stands firmly by that assessment now. He was ecstatic when he learned he’d be sharing scenes with Kaitlin as Dee, especially considering their shared alma mater – the University of Pennsylvania. This connection felt organic and promising, leading to something truly exceptional. The other notable pairing Brunson mentioned was Charlie and Barbara, which he considers one of his favorite duos in the show. He finds it heartening that this partnership serves as the emotional core for a series with heart.
Unexpectedly, those particular scenes were included in this episode, leaving me surprised. Indeed, they stirred my emotions. They truly did.
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Did you always know that “Abbott” would air its crossover first?
McElhenney: I believe due to the structure of the series, each episode seems to have its own identity. For instance, the “Abbott” episode is self-contained, excellent, and complete in itself. However, our episode appears more like a setup leading to a climax, while the punchline comes later. Interestingly, you can watch them in either order, and both episodes remain coherent and meaningful.
In the “Abbott” episode, Dennis, portrayed by Glenn Howerton, seems rather mysterious. I’m not giving away any secrets, but could the hints dropped in “Abbott” lead to developments similar to those seen in “Sunny”?
Brunson: Dennis is the key.
McElhenney: Yes. So when you see the “Sunny” episode, you’ll realize why we did that with Dennis.
Was there a moment where you thought, “This would be perfect for the ‘Sunny’ episode. Perhaps ABC’s standards might not approve, but FX should be okay with it?
As a long-time viewer and admirer of your work, I must say that it was quite surprising to me when I saw the joke in your recent episode that I couldn’t believe would make it into the final cut. However, after seeing the final version of the episode, I have to admit that it was a brilliant addition, and I appreciate the creativity and humor you brought to the table. It just goes to show how much thought and effort you put into each episode, which is something I’ve come to expect from your work over the years. Keep up the great work!
Brunson: You did.
McElhenney: I cannot believe that that joke was made on your show.
Brunson: I wonder which one.
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