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Ministry’s Al Jourgensen announces the end of his iconic, industrial band. But first, one last album and tour

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Since 1981, Ministry, led by Al Jourgensen, has been creating chaos and discord, transforming from its synth-pop dance origins into the industrial thrash metal we know today. Now, after decades of recording and touring, Uncle Al is ready to retire the band permanently. Before he does, he plans one final album and a worldwide tour to conclude Ministry’s legendary career.

Over the phone from a concert venue in Canada, he shared insights on Ministry’s ongoing Squirrely Years Tour, an exceptional series of performances dedicated to playing only their first two albums, “With Sympathy” and “Twitch.” For the first time in many years, Jourgensen is performing early songs, primarily synth-pop tracks that he previously criticized but now appreciates as part of his musical journey. The lead singer spoke candidly about reconnecting with veteran collaborator Paul Barker, the band’s upcoming final album, his aversion to aggressive mosh pits, and his decision not to read his autobiography.

As a devoted fan and critic, I’ve always admired Ministry for their groundbreaking work. When did you, the mastermind behind this musical powerhouse, decide to draw the curtain? Was it a sudden impulse or a gradual realization?

Well, it was indeed a journey, not a snap decision. With 17 albums under our collective belt, we’ve explored every nook and cranny of our creative potential. I sense there’s one more album within me that will push those boundaries even further. However, I don’t want to be that band playing the same riffs for decades on end—it loses its charm after a while. This decision has been brewing for some time now. It’s not linked to past health issues; it’s simply the right moment. After our final album drops next year, we’ll embark on one last world tour. Then, the torch will be passed to the new generation. I’m ready to move on and explore new musical landscapes.

Are you completely leaving music behind, or will it continue to be a part of your life in some capacity? To clarify, although I may not be actively involved in the touring scene anymore due to fatigue from constant interaction with people, my passion for film scoring remains. For instance, I recently completed a score for a documentary titled “Long Knife,” which delves into the Koch brothers’ exploitation of the Osage Nation, following a similar theme as “Killers of the Flower Moon.” So while the touring life may be behind me, composing film scores is still an area that piques my interest.

How is your current well-being?
I’m doing wonderfully. It’s a blessing to be able to venture out with good health and a sharp mind. At one time in the early 2000s, I doubted if I would ever tour again. I had a ruptured artery in my stomach that made me bleed daily on the road. I simply decided, “No way, it’s not worth it.” But now we’re wrapping up everything purposefully — inviting people like Paul Barker back, recording in familiar spots, and concluding things properly.

Have you ever wondered about the atmosphere on this tour, given your earlier comments about disliking mosh pits? Despite performing songs that are over four decades old, there’s still some gentle moshing going on – it’s making me chuckle. The shows feel like a unique, time-travel experience. Everyone is dancing and living in the moment, making it more like an eccentric, dark, electronic hippie dance party. Honestly, I didn’t think I’d enjoy it this much!

Is there a distinct approach when playing the initial songs compared to the heavier tracks by Ministry? Absolutely, but the audience is well aware of what they’re in for. They aren’t asking for the ’90s metal vibe. It’s like stepping into a time machine. We’ve carefully crafted this setlist, and it’s been worth it. I’m genuinely enjoying the performance.

Will your final performance encompass the entirety of Ministry’s career span?

Indeed, it will encapsulate an extensive review of our entire career, spanning approximately two to three hours. We intend to delve into every era, touching upon all 17 albums. There’s a possibility that we may resurrect two drummers, as was done in the ’80s. This farewell tour won’t merely consist of our most popular songs; rather, it will be a carefully orchestrated voyage, potentially featuring some familiar faces from our past.

How has your struggle with addiction impacted your personal development over the years?

Now, let me tell you how I see myself. Just like everyone else, I’ve changed. Twenty years ago, I was a different person. Nowadays, they call me “Uncle Al,” and I appreciate that label. I’ve experienced enough life to become less affected by trivial issues. However, the aspects of life that truly matter, I find myself more dedicated to them than ever before. I’m thankful for every part of this journey, even the chaos – it led me to where I am today.

In some instances, music was a lifesaver for me during those challenging times, offering solace and inspiration. Conversely, on other occasions, my involvement with the music industry felt like it was pushing me towards the brink, leaving me feeling overwhelmed. Essentially, it’s a two-sided tool – a blessing and a curse.

Has the Ministry continued its struggle against injustice? Are you continuing to champion the cause valiantly?

This tour presents an unexpected twist. Given the current global circumstances, it seemed appropriate to pause and enable people to recall the sensation of pure joy. Nevertheless, the upcoming album will be intensely concentrated. I may have momentarily withdrawn from direct action, but my voice against injustice has only grown stronger and more precise.

Did you hear that I haven’t read my autobiography titled “Ministry: The Lost Gospels of Al Jourgensen”? To clarify, I didn’t write it myself. Instead, I shared stories with a Rolling Stone writer while we both had a lot of vodka. Their legal team then polished up the content and presented it to me as a completed book. In my first interview about it, they asked if I read it, and I responded, “Why should I?” Just like watching concert footage, I experienced it personally. There’s no need for me to re-live it.

Is it often felt that Wax Trax! Records and the early Midwest music scene have been underestimated in Ministry’s history?

Yes, at times this is the case. However, true connoisseurs of music understand the significance of that period. Wax Trax! was a vital hub during that time. It’s fascinating to see young goth enthusiasts aged 14-18 alongside older fans who were part of the scene back then, all in the front row at concerts today. That’s the beauty of it.

As a devoted fan, I can’t help but wonder about the closing chapter of the Ministry. With the new album expected to drop by Christmas and set for release in June 2026, we’re in for one last global tour starting from September next year. Every continent will be touched except Antarctica, and it promises to be an unforgettable journey lasting a full year. After that, it seems like the end of the road, but I’m ready and excited for this final ride with them.

The Ministry’s “Squirrely Years” concert tour is scheduled to make a stop at the Hollywood Palladium on June 4, featuring special guests Nitzer Ebb, My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult, and Die Krupps.

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2025-06-03 13:34

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