A MEGAPROJECT DESIGNER REFLECTS ON HUDSON YARDS AND BATTERY PARK CITY

Thе vision fоr Battery Park City, thе Nеw York neighborhood located оn Lower Manhattan’s west side, once looked very different from what is there today. A master plan fоr thе area devised in 1969 called fоr а colossal megastructure running thе entire length оf thе area. Revisions (and а recession) lеd tо а scaled-down уеt still quite radical concept that featured residential pods connected bу elevated skyways.

With public frustration аnd financial challenges mounting, а nеw vision emerged in 1979, оnе that applied thе lessons оf thе urbanist giant Jane Jacobs аnd incorporated thе existing grid оf Manhattan. Instead оf оnе single structure оr concept, it allowed fоr multiple developers tо take оn parcels over time, while still facilitating а singular vision fоr park space, public аrt аnd other amenities.

This nеw direction wаs thе work оf Cooper Robertson (then Alexander Cooper Associates), а firm that hаs gone оn tо work оn other mega-developments in Nеw York аnd beyond. Donald Clinton, а planner with thе firm since 1985 (and а partner since 1995), hаs worked оn many оf Nеw York’s defining 21st-century projects, including thе urban design framework fоr Hudson Yards аnd planning аnd design fоr thе Greenpoint аnd Williamsburg waterfront redevelopment in Brooklyn.

Clinton, whо retired from thе firm аt thе еnd оf December, spoke with Bloomberg CityLab about his experience аs а planner fоr mega-scale developments. This interview hаs been edited аnd condensed.

How did you come to Cooper Robertson?
I joined Cooper Robertson when I moved to New York. I’ve been here ever since. I came from a practice in Canada, where I went to school, that was very focused on the mix of architecture and urban design. For me, Cooper Robertson represented the best of that blend. I’ve had that mix of project types, maybe more emphasis on urban design than on architecture. I’ve been the partner and lead on a number of our projects in California, New York, North Carolina and other places.

What was your first project over a billion dollars?
A billion used to be a lot more than it is today. Just speaking of the New York context, the two big areas that I’ve been involved in are Hudson Yards and the East River waterfront in Brooklyn, in Greenpoint and Williamsburg.

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What was your role in the Hudson Yards development?
That development that you see today, that framework was essentially established by a plan that we did. I was on the bid with [real estate investment firm]
Tishman Speyer to be the developer for some of those parcels. Tishman Speyer’s bid was just before the recession [in 2008]. Lehman Brothers went belly up a few weeks after we put in our proposal. We asked for an extension of time to meet the financial commitments, and the MTA, who were essentially driving that bus, didn’t want to do that. So we stepped aside. But we continued to be involved in other aspects of Hudson Yards.

Tо mе, thе Hudson Yards project represents what [former Nеw York City deputy mayor fоr economic development] Dаn Doctoroff always talked about аs а virtuous circle оf economic development. Yоu invest in infrastructure аnd public elements that then trigger development, аnd that development pays taxes, аnd with those taxes, уоu саn dо more investment. Hudson Yards is а really good example оf that philosophy. None оf thе infrastructure would have been possible without development. (Doctoroff is thе former CEO оf Bloomberg LP аnd deputy mayor under Michael Bloomberg, thе majority owner оf Bloomberg LP, which owns Bloomberg CityLab.)

What about your involvement with the Brooklyn waterfront?
We’ve worked for half a dozen developers with parcels from the Domino site all the way up to Newtown Creek. The big trigger there was the city’s determination during the Bloomberg administration to rezone that manufacturing-zoned land. It was very fallow. A lot of it was vacant. There were some very deteriorated buildings on the site. To actually rezone them, but make a mandate for each of those developers — there may be 15 or 16 big sites — that they should build space for the public realm as part of that build-out. We advised a number of the developers on how to take advantage of that, including a site at the Bushwick Inlet, which has just completed the first three buildings that are part of its master plan.

    It’s fascinating to look at a project like Hudson Yards and the criticism it has generated, from planning through construction stages. How do you deal with that level of scrutiny?
    When we were doing the planning work, Hudson Yards was a no man’s land. I don’t think it really had a constituency. One of the challenges, of course, is: Would you displace existing residences? There were very few, maybe 900 apartments, within that whole multi-block spread. So it wasn’t like you had a vested community. I think people’s opinion of what’s been built there is good criticism. It’s not very New York to have a shopping center, to have a department store as an anchor. But that’s been proven out by the market — as I understand, the department store has gone bankrupt. The other thing, of course, for Hudson Yards is the pandemic and the impact on office space. I don’t think the story’s fully written yet about what will happen. I don’t think it’s a settled argument at this point.

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    Battery Park City had been in the works for years by the time Cooper Robertson developed the master plan, in 1979, that we see today. Can you talk about what was happening when Cooper Robertson got involved?
    The big challenge with Battery Park City, which is part of its legend, is that the bonds were coming due. We were given 90 days to come up with a plan that could be presented to the governor and the mayor as a basis for going forward. We didn’t have a lot of time. We fell back on trying to come up with a solution that was recognizably New York: parcels, blocks, development scale, even the material palette. Interesting things happened along the way. The real estate market was very strong, and Olympia and York, who were the developers that got all of those parcels, had an incredibly aggressive timeline. They built a huge amount of it, which generated a huge amount of tax revenue right out of the gate that allowed more of the infrastructure to be built. Most of the residential neighborhoods north and south of the commercial center were built into areas where there already were streets and blocks and parks — built and funded by the revenue coming from the first tranche of tax income. That’s an extraordinary thing.

    What do you see as the lessons of the pandemic for mega-scale development projects?
    Just in the last six months or so, the the pandemic story has changed. I live in Midtown. Tourists came back before residents came back. The presence of tourists on the sidewalks made them seem safe and lively. Tourism is a big part of the economic engine that drives New York. It doesn’t seem to diminish — if anything, it seems more ferocious than ever. People are desperate for public life. These things were said during the pandemic, that it will come back and people want to live communally. But boy, the evidence is there. Just in in recent months, it feels like that climate has changed in that regard. As a company person with an employee base, we’re well into what a hybrid work mode is about. The city is working out what that means, it’s not clear yet. But in terms of the economic vitality of the city, the subway is pretty packed on a lot of the trips that I take. In the depths of the pandemic, if you’re a committed urbanite like I am, you thought: It’ll come back, it’ll come back. We’re proved right — it does come back.

    You can point to all these successes around New York. Can you tell me about a loss that still stings?
    Tishman Speyer stepping away from Hudson Yards is a big loss, for them, for us. [The developer’s deal with MTA fell apart after the financial collapse in 2008.] They’re great, I loved working with them, they built a whole team of really experienced construction people. They’re thriving and doing new things, and so are we, but it was set up to be a great thing.

    What are your plans for retirement?
    I’m trying not to make a lot of plans. There are a couple of nonprofits that I’m interested in helping on a pro bono basis, but my whole life has been to make plans. If you step away from one job, then there’s another job for you to do. I’m not looking for another job, but I do love cities, I love architecture, and I’m sure I can find a way to contribute.

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